tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19803826.post4814199160066223326..comments2024-03-27T23:28:07.513-07:00Comments on BikeBubba's Boulangerie: Another reason to homeschoolBike Bubbahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08193546045614393425noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19803826.post-44018873540498672152008-10-17T11:52:00.000-07:002008-10-17T11:52:00.000-07:00Yep. And besides the simple truth of that statemen...Yep. And besides the simple truth of that statement, it bugs me that there are those who simply swallow the idea that they're providing a superior education for their kids because 1) it's at home and 2) it's "Christian." I would <I>almost</I> be prepared to argue that kids would be better off in <I>some</I> government education settings, than in "Christian homeschooling" that doesn't really get to the heart of education.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19803826.post-87527314730653194902008-10-17T09:35:00.000-07:002008-10-17T09:35:00.000-07:00In other words, you're saying that too many homesc...In other words, you're saying that too many homeschool books (texts/anthologies/whatever) are merely "baptized" versions of the same government/factory school methods that people like Linda Schrock Taylor, John Taylor Gatto, and others rightly despise.<BR/><BR/>Did I get that about right? If so, agreed.Bike Bubbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08193546045614393425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19803826.post-41982909859518717932008-10-17T09:05:00.000-07:002008-10-17T09:05:00.000-07:00Huh, okay, I thought I posted this yesterday, but ...Huh, okay, I thought I posted this yesterday, but must have messed up. Here I go again:<BR/><BR/>I worded it badly. By "get the Obama nonsense out of" I meant "derive the Obama nonsense from," not "remove the Obama nonsense from." My apologies, that <I>was</I> extremely misleading.<BR/><BR/>And on my larger point, Veritas aside, what I mostly meant is that there is still way too much homeschool curriculum that follows the "same song, different verse" model of PS curriculum. The methodology is the same, the mentality is even much the same, just that the "values" it promotes are different, in a baptized, Christianly correct sort of way. A lit text full of evangelical boilerplate or even carefully selected and "approved" mainstream works that does not place things in an appropriate cultural context nor really interact with the literature except to ask kids a series of stock questions about how the characters do, or do not, fulfill specific biblical injunctions, is only very marginally better than the same sort of thing from a liberal point of view. What little positive the kids get from it is something, but it still represents a failure to teach kids to read and understand literature, and fails to give them an understanding of the literary tradition of their culture. There are, as you note, excellent exceptions, but the Big Guns of the homeschool world still largely follow this model.<BR/><BR/>Just a hobbyhorse of mine, I guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19803826.post-81441208819895154662008-10-15T07:53:00.000-07:002008-10-15T07:53:00.000-07:00Pentamom--well said, though I'd argue that a "text...Pentamom--well said, though I'd argue that a "text" that is predominantly samples of great literature really qualifies as more of an "anthology" than a mere "text."<BR/><BR/>One question; how is it that we are "not" going to get the Obama nonsense out of homeschooling oriented materials? Methinks that Veritas Press tends to do a decent job of just that.Bike Bubbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08193546045614393425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19803826.post-45477972311684128732008-10-15T06:08:00.000-07:002008-10-15T06:08:00.000-07:00Back onto my hobbyhorse:It's another reason to hom...Back onto my hobbyhorse:<BR/><BR/>It's another reason to homeschool <I>well.</I> Granted you aren't going to get the Obama nonsense out of homeschooling-oriented materials, but you will get the literature texts (which are not all bad, since the good ones just contain samples of literature in convenient, organized, annotated form, though others are pretty abysmal) and other ripoffs of the public school methodology. Conversely, there are non-public, non-home schools that do things well also, and even a limited number of public schools.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19803826.post-33301692745494153332008-10-14T22:09:00.000-07:002008-10-14T22:09:00.000-07:00ronald reagan was a better writer than obama could...ronald reagan was a better writer than obama could ever be.<BR/><BR/>ever read the letters he wrote to nancy?<BR/><BR/>he was good, and could have made a living with his writing.Ginohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09606046924332159076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19803826.post-50874375162297780882008-10-14T14:15:00.000-07:002008-10-14T14:15:00.000-07:00Here's the title.http://www.classzone.com/cz/books...Here's the title.<BR/><BR/>http://www.classzone.com/cz/books/ml_lit_gr08/book_home.htm?state=WI<BR/><BR/>Worse than you'd thought, it doesn't even appear to be an anthology. It's a text, hence most of the words are going to be those of everyday teachers, not literary greats.<BR/><BR/>At least McGuffey's literary selections are mostly the literature.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and welcome here!Bike Bubbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08193546045614393425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19803826.post-36226090847639840042008-10-14T12:15:00.000-07:002008-10-14T12:15:00.000-07:00Oh my... sad and true - though anthologies do hav...Oh my... sad and true - though anthologies do have their uses, they are not sufficient and always biased. Read it all (says the English major who read all too little...)!Keithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14984879980692257954noreply@blogger.com